Tuesday 8th July 2008
One of the most anointed books I have read in recent times (besides the Bible) is Destined to Reign by Ps Joseph Prince.
The following review was done by a Methodist pastor, and circulated to the leaders of my church.
I have some comments to make on his comments, which I will be formulating over the next few days. Meanwhile, do write in and let me know what you think, dear readers of ROOTSS...
BOOK REVIEW – Joseph Prince’s Destined to Reign
Reviewed by Rev Dr Gordon Wong
I recently read the book Destined to Reign (2007) by Joseph Prince, the senior pastor of New Creation Church. When I conveyed some of my thoughts on the book, one of my pastoral colleagues thought it would be helpful if I shared them with more Methodists. Let me begin by saying that Pastor Prince’s emphasis on grace has been a great blessing from God to many. My nephew and cousin belong to New Creation church and have grown immensely in their relationship with God. My prayer is that God will use Prince’s gifts of preaching to even more blessed effect as he allows the Holy Spirit to convict him (graciously, as always) of areas that could be improved. I hope my comments below will be helpful towards that end.
1. Prince’s teaching on God’s Grace and Anger
His emphasis on grace has led some to accuse him of giving Christians a licence to sin. He vehemently rejects this criticism (e.g. p. 30) and explains that a person who has properly experienced grace is one who is inspired and empowered to turn away from sin.
What I like: the book’s stress on the power of God’s grace is correct. The grace of God in the Bible is meant to inspire holiness, and not allow sinfulness. The book’s strong emphasis on grace is true to the Bible. Self-condemnation and guilt are real problems that afflict many people today, and the message of God’s grace is truly good news.
What I had reservations about:
In stressing grace, the book appears to suggest that God no longer gets angry with Christians. If this is what it really means to teach, then this is not biblical. On p. 41, read: “We do see God being angry in the Old Testament, and in the book of Revelation, where his anger is toward those who have rejected Jesus. But for you and me, believers in the new covenant, we are not part of the Old Testament and we will never be punished because we have already received Jesus. As believers, God is no longer angry with us because all His anger for our sins fell upon Jesus at the cross.”
I suspect (and hope) that what the book really means is that God’s anger is not the type that takes delight in condemning us and pointing out how horrible we are. Also, I think (and hope) that what the book means to say is that God’s anger and punishment on believers does not result in the loss of eternal salvation. But to say the above is very different from saying that God gets angry only with unbelievers and never with true believers (p. 41), or to insist that “the Holy Spirit never convicts you of sin” (p.134). Does the Bible really say that God never gets angry with believers anymore? In the Bible (both Old and New Testaments), God is presented as getting angry with believers. For example, the letters to the 7 churches (i.e. people who profess to be believers) in Revelation 2-3 include a lot of stinging rebuke and condemnation from Jesus himself, including the use of threats of punishment and judgement. (I find attempts to say that the “churches” in Revelation do not really refer to believers as far-fetched.) God Himself seems to punish two professing believers Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11. Isn’t this an example of the Holy Spirit, through Peter, convicting Ananias and Sapphira of their sins? Or must we assume the (not so gracious) judgement that Ananias and Sapphira cannot have been true believers?? For argument’s sake, even if they were not true believers, they were certainly in the church assembly. So there is place still for Spirit-inspired preaching for the conviction of sin within church walls. There may be many “believers” like Ananias and Sapphira who need the Holy Spirit to convict us of sin and our need for grace. Perhaps the book could have made a clearer distinction between divine anger at Christians that results in the loss of eternal salvation (which is what he is most concerned to speak against) and divine anger at Christians that aims to correct and discipline (which he seems to reject). To be fair, Prince does accept the positive idea of child discipline or training (pp. 65-67), but he rejects any association of this discipline with the words “anger” or “punishment”.
God’s anger was, and can still be an expression of His love and grace, just like a loving mother who sometimes scolds her child. (Prince is, hopefully, only joking when he implies, p.37, that children will become schizophrenic if parents sometimes express happiness and at other times anger!) To say that God will never get angry or punish believers anymore may promote (unwittingly or mistakenly) a distortion of the Bible’s teaching about God’s grace. God’s anger is an expression of His love and grace towards his children. Prince would perhaps do better to speak of righteous anger (Ephesians 4:26) versus unrighteous anger. God never gets (unrighteously) angry with us, but loving grace demands a place for righteous anger as long as His beloved children still need discipline.
2. Prince’s teaching on Law
The book is very strong on rejecting the value of the Law in the OT as being of any positive help for Christians. For example, on p.120 there is a section entitled “The Ten Commandments Kill” and it says that these commandments are “the ministry of death”.
What I like: I think (and hope) that the book is trying to say two biblical things about the Law. Firstly, it may be warning us that the Ten Commandments can be used or preached in a condemning way that destroys the soul of people and makes them cringe in fear or turn away from God as a harsh Master. This is a good biblical warning. Secondly, the book’s description of the Law as a ministry of death rather than life correctly describes and reinforces the biblical view that obedience to the Law cannot lead us to receive salvation. It is correct and very good of Prince to speak against those who are “trying to use the Ten Commandments to remove their sins” (p.124). We are saved by grace, not by obedience to the Ten Commandments or the Law. If these two points represent what Prince teaches on the Law in the Bible, then this is good and biblical.
What I had reservations about: That the Law can be preached and understood in such a way as to promote soul-destroying guilt and deeper condemnation is certainly true. Prince is to be commended for eloquently highlighting this biblical warning about the danger of the Law, and stressing the wonderful grace of God that forgives us all through Christ. But while there are many who need this message of God’s grace-filled forgiveness to save them from their guilt and despair over sin, there are many others who need the message of God’s grace-filled discipline and rebuke to save them from presumption and indifference to sin. Prince’s emphasis on free and full forgiveness is very good at helping the former, but not so good for the latter. Does Prince believe that guilt is the only problem people have because of sin? If so, that would present an incomplete picture. Sin does not only imprison us in guilt; it also lulls us into indifference and presumption. The Bible addresses both these effects of sin. The book appears to suggest that there is no way of preaching the Law in a graceful manner in order to set us free from our sinful indifference and presumption.
Similarly, Prince is correct to stress that the Law cannot save or justify, but his writings give the impression that the Law has no other positive function except to prove that we cannot be saved by it. But the Law in the Bible is also presented as a positive expression of God’s grace in telling us what God desires. But because Prince contrasts Law and Grace in this manner, he gives the impression of implying that the Law has only the negative value of telling people that they cannot be saved by their attempts at obedience to the Law. The Law certainly does perform that valuable function, but it does much more as well. It helps us know what is good in God’s eyes. The book is weak on emphasising the ongoing value of the Law for both Christians and unbelievers.
To be fair to this book, there are certain parts of the Bible that also speak in similarly strong negative tones against the Law (e.g. most of Galatians and parts of the books of Romans and Hebrews). But this negative view is balanced out in other parts of the Bible that are very positive about the Law (e.g. Jesus in Matt 5:19-20; James 1:25; Psalm 119 etc.). In other words, the Law as a means of salvation is spoken of very negatively in the Bible, but the Law as a means of showing us God’s pleasure or desire for our lives is spoken of very positively. The book seems to emphasise only the negative picture of the Law. Doing so would fail to do justice to the biblical balance which speaks also of the ongoing positive value of the Law for Christians. Paul, himself, could sum up the Law very positively as teaching us to love one another (Gal 5:14; Rom 13:8,10).
3. Prince’s teaching on Healing
Healing is a big topic in the Bible, and it is not the main theme of Prince’s book. But from the little he says in his final full chapter “Good Things Happen” (pp. 287ff), Prince relates testimonies of people who were healed when they received the grace and forgiveness of God. He also states that “once you know that you have been forgiven of all your sins, past, present and future, the healing of all our diseases follows” (p.290).
What I like: I think Prince is correct to say that the Bible speaks of a God who heals our diseases, and this is a true expression of the forgiveness and grace of God. Physical healing is taught and prayed for and experienced in the Bible.
What I had reservations about: Whilst the book speaks of Bible passages where physical healing is expected and takes place, it says nothing about the passages that accept (without surprise or anguish) that miraculous physical healing did not take place e.g. 2 Tim 4:20; Philippians 2:25-27; 1 Tim 5:23; Gal 4:13-14. Incidentally, Galatians 4:13-14 tells us explicitly that Paul did have a bodily sickness which resulted in the greater good of the Gospel being preached contra Prince’s statement that “Paul did not suffer any sickness or disease” (p. 71). The problem is not so much with what Prince affirms viz. that healing is a blessing from a God who is full of grace; the problem is with what he omits to affirm viz. that physical illness without healing on earth can also fall within the gracious providence of God. The Bible teaches us both to pray for physical healing and to be prepared to endure illness with patient endurance. The victorious Christian life is one that remains faithful to God in both times of abundance and poverty, in sickness or in health, for richer or for poorer (cf. Philippians 4:12-13). I do not know the ministry of Prince well enough to be sure of what he really thinks about healing on earth. Perhaps if you listen long enough to his sermons, you may be able to make a fairer assessment. Does he preach to help Christians cope with the onslaught of poverty and illness, or does he speak only of removing sickness and suffering by effortless faith? We need both messages, because that is the balance we find in Scripture.
In general, most preachers are prone to partial teaching. We all tend to favour one side of the balance more than the other as a result of our personal experience of God’s dealings with us. The danger comes when we imply that the side we prefer is the only true side of biblical truth!
May God grant us wisdom and discernment as we seek to live in ways that befit those who have been saved by such a wonderful grace as that which our Lord Jesus has lavished on us.
Postscript: There are several places where I do not agree with Prince’s interpretation of the Bible verses (e.g. pp. 124f on the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; p.263-65 on the cold, hot and lukewarm Laodiceans in Rev 3:15-16), but these are disagreements over the interpretation of specific phrases that can commonly be found amongst devout Bible teachers. My comments above focus on some major issues that discerning Christians should reflect on more carefully.

9 comments:
The Bible is correct. ... they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest.
We need to enter from the DOOR into the HOUSE to understand grace. We will always have doubt if we stand outside.
I was formerly from an AOG church (for almost 30 years since I was a kid attending Sunday School) but when I first listened to Pastor Prince's preaching in Oct 2003, I was stunned by the way Pastor Prince (PP) interpreted the bible verses and gave such a different perspective and insight to what a Christian life is all about.
I started to attend NCC to learn more but it was not for a few years before I was finally able to grasp the grace gospel that PP was trying drum into us week after week. You see, I had to unlearn what I had been taught through the years, but after listening to PP's sermons over and over again, slowly the veil was removed from my eyes and I began to see the difference between the old and new covenant.
Several times I wondered why PP was preaching the same topic on righteousness again, but then I realised that it was because there are many like me in NCC who have to unlearn what they had been taught over the years. We have to keep listening again and again to let the message sink into our spirit.
For those of us who have been consistently listening to Pastor Prince's preaching, it is obvious that "Destined to Reign" is actually a collection of Pastor Prince's sermons transcribed into the written word.
I feel that "Destined to Reign" is most beneficial to those who have been Christians for a long time but somehow feel that the Christian life they are supposed to be enjoying is actually not that enjoyable. They are hungry for more and looking for answers. "Destined to Reign" will offer them a different perspective and they will be able to discover for themselves the answers they are searching for.
Those who are satisfied with their present state of affairs will not hunger after the truths revealed in the book.
After reading the review by Rev Dr Gordon Wong, I feel that his comments are reflective of preachers who do not divide the Word of God on the basis of the old and new covenant.
In my own spiritual journey, I could not fully grasp the difference between law and grace until I understood that I am now under the new covenant based on the finished work of Christ on the cross, and am no longer under the old covenant.
For a better understanding of PP's sermons and "Destined to Reign", I recommend that readers listen to PP's sermon titled "Understanding The Major Covenants Of The Bible" (30/10/2003)
Bro Stanley wrote:
"Those who are satisfied with their present state of affairs will not hunger after the truths revealed in the book."
I fully agree. I always tell my wife, those who ain't going through trials will find it hard to embrace grace. As long as one believe that he/she can "manage" or "live with" the minor hiccups here & there and accepts that as fate or part of life, will find it difficult to completely depend on God, and God alone.
What Jesus said, He came for sinners. Those who are well don't need a doctor. So if the ailment ain't "BIG" enough, most Christians "make do" or live with it, only the "BIG" ones like cancers, heart problems, huge debts, failed marriage(s), run away children etc. then they come crying to God, and start judging themselves whether was it this or that, that he/she has failed to "DO" that God was thus unable to heal or prevent him /her from getting the "BIG" trial!
I came to know a guy who received Christ about 2 years ago. He got to know Christ through me & a few other NCC brothers & sisters (we happened to be in the same industry). Being raised in a traditional family of you deserve what you do teachings, he cannot fully embrace grace and finds it unfair to "beg" for favours as long as he can still solve his problems! He is operating under the Law systems, where when he receives, he says he deserves it cos he works for it! When he blows it he says he deserves it cos he was lazy or something like that. God was never in his midst. He failed to realised that when he receives it, it was because God loves him and blessed him beyond his doings, and when he blows it, God still loves him and shielded him from blowing it big!
Only less than 2 years, he has already backslided, cos he finds no difference in believing or not, and he finds a lot of Christians are hypocrites!
He asked me why he felt like this, and why he cannot totally embrace grace. I told him for his kind of character (very strong willed, very tough guy type) the day he comes to the end of himself, that he finally admits that he is completely helpless, that is the day he will see grace, the grace of his Saviour.
Embracing grace is not a license to sin, as some self righteous ones believes. on the contrary, correct me if I am wrong, learning to live in grace, and by grace, and grace alone, is a journey. It's not easy cos to me, to live in grace, is to live by faith, the faith in Jesus my Lord that He takes care of ALL my cares, that things may not seems to be alright but the trust (complete reliance) in Him that He has it taken care of in His perfect timing.
I am called to do the little by faith, and He is faithful to do the mighty, Amen.
I asked for little things like a parking lot in a crowded shopping mall, smooth traffic on the road, favours with the people I deal with in my work etc. but that does not mean I do not do my part! When I get a parking lot, I choose to believe He reserved it just for me and am grateful to Him. When I enjoy favour with men I work with, I give thanks to Him who favoured me! When I blew it, I repent but am ever grateful that He has already forgiven me and still loves me and will not discount His favours for me! He is my God who loves me, and loves you! His grace will not get lesser for you because He has given some to others who are more law-abiding!
That's what I believe.
Shalom Shalom,
William
Hi Stanley
I so agree with you on the unlearning and learning part. Even having been with NCC for so many years, I realised I haven't establish myself firmly on the Righteousness msg that pastors at NCC have been preaching Sunday after Sunday.
Even at some points in my walk when i think i have, circumstances come up to show me the need to go back to the basics of the Grace & Righteousness msg for new growth & understanding.
Like how you put it.. "We have to keep listening again and again to let the message sink into our spirit". And that's what i'll continue to do! Let the Truth of Jesus' finished work sink deep into my spirit & produce a walk pleasing to my Daddy that I'm not capable of producing myself. :)
As for Rev Dr Gordon Wong's review, we should examine the points he brought up. I suspect most of us at NCC dun take PP's sermons wholesale but feed on what edifies us in that we dun pay attention to what others outside might. (Or I speak for myself at the very least :p)
Malcolm, I'm looking forward to your entries on this. I reserve my comments til then. ;)
Ananias and Sapphira were not Christians. Pastor showed this clearly in one of his sermons years ago. He showed that whenever a Christian is indicated in the book of Acts it is always prefaced with the words "a certain disciple". Eg. This is clear when in Acts 9:10, the Lord called the Ananias there to minister to the Saul who would be become Paul.When it comes to Ananias and Sapphira, there is no "a certain disciple" prefacting their names. The scriptures are very consistent in their usage of words. This is one of reasons why we know this Book is supernatural. 66 Books, 40 Authors, separated by time and space. Yet consistency of themes, language and usage of words.
Hi Terence
That would have been one of my responses too.
In fact, check out this blog entry...
The Ananias in Acts 5 vs the Ananias in Acts 9
I like to talk the little I know about God Anger in my walk with Him.
Being reborn in NCC for 2 years now, it takes knowing how Righteous we are as God in Christ.
Lord has anointed me healing power. There was once Lord asked me to go heal a friend's mother-in-law. As she lived far away from me, I told Lord I will go heal her days later, when I went into the city. Lord command is to go heal her next day, not a few days later.
When I didn't obey Lord, I felt Lord's strong presence in me departing. Then I quickly apologised to Lord and told Him that I will obey and go heal her.
It was this experience that I realised the Greatest of what Lord Jesus had forgiven us and redeemed us.
Even I disobey Lord, He forgave me and I could feel His strong presence in me again. This was the first time I "come against" His command, yet He forgives me based on the what Lord Jesus had completed for me at the cross.
God Anger? No, Lord promised that He will never be angry with us again.
Sometime when I did not walk right, Lord would lead me thru repentance. This is how Good Lord is when you believe in the Gospel Lord gets Pastor Prince to preach. Lord will come to lead you personally.
Why some people still cannot accept the Grace of Lord Jesus, it's when you come to the end of yourself, where no one else could help you, you will then go to Lord Jesus for His Grace to strengthen you up.
I was in 3 yrs of adversary disturb and no amt of temple visit could help. After heading to endless tunnel, I finally found help thru Lord Jesus.
Pastor Prince taught us our rights as a child of God. Once you get hold of the rights, you could tell the adversary to get off you by proclaiming your rights in Jesus to the devil.
Shalom!
Just saw this review:
http://szezeng.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-preface-of-destined-to-reign.html
This person is saying that Joseph PRince is no different from the mormon. (Ie New Creation Church is a cult!)
I like the review by Rev Wong.
Frankly I am really concern for the members of NCC. There is no real good balance in the sermons. I am afraid that the sermons preached at NCC is only half the bible.
One cannot speak about grace without law. Just like we cannot understand faith without works as much as we will not appreciate the love of God when we take the wrath of God flippantly.
It is very soothing and good for the soul to hear and listen under the teachings of JP, as the over emphasis on grace is good for the heart and ears. This tantamounts to spiritual consumerism which is really dangerous.
I have this feeling that people attending NCC tend to get more excited into more discoveries, insights from JP preaching week in week out. How deep do you want to go? Remember at the end of it all when we see Jesus it is not how much you know you know the bible (not how much insights you discovered in the bible)but rather how much the bible has gone through you. Jesus is going to ask you where are the "fruits" and not how much you you know about grace.
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